Dutch Stream 24/7 use ss 1.31

[radiorenr1]

Whe have a stream with dutch music.
I Used sam broadcaster and ss 1.31 with a own presset

http://server-11.stream-server.nl:8310/listen.pls

[jesseg]

it's not bad.  it sounds like lots of faster smooth compression with high thresholds, and/or soft limiting.  it works for this kind of music, even though the technique isn't as program independent (more consistent) as other techniques.

for instance, when the songs fade out, you can easily hear how the AGC or Compressors don't catch up with the song fading out, but still...  i'm actually impressed that you managed to get the levels of multi-band compression into the multi-band limiters as consistent as it is, when the song is loud. 

props

[radiorenr1]

hello

whe have oure present change and now whe will now its good.
how is the sound now ?

go to  www.piratenstudio.com or 85.214.16.211:8223 url to the stream

if its not so good ,what can i do to it ?

[jesseg]

It could use some more bass and mid-bass.  It doesn't have any "oomph".  Not bad other places so far.  The overall level could go up 1db from where it's at, and you still won't be clipping on decode.

What mp3 encoder is being used?  I'm not impressed by it, lots of artifacts for a 128kbps 32kHz Stereo (Joint im guessing)

Try using Edcast, with Lame 3.90.6, and LamePreset=12 in the ini config, and do full 44.1kHz 128kbps CBR.   <-- hot tip

[radiorenr1]

i use the encoder bult in sam broadcaster.

where can i dowbload the lame what you say i must use it ?
i cant find the Lame 3.90.6

greetz from holland and thanks for youre time

[jesseg]

oh, my bad... it's lame 3.90.3
i'll upload it, here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?eskgcatf8sy

[radiorenr1]

okay,i have the lame put in sam now and i stream now with edcast.

is it now better than the first time? and i have the high changed.

greet

[Feeling: Pop Rock Radio]

@Jesseg: Its lame 3.90.3 better that the latest 3.98 Final? I am using the latest lame acm codec in my stream and I want to know what version is better.

[jesseg]

In my experience it has been better for 128kbps CBR 44.1kHz Joint Stereo than 3.98 up to beta 8, which was the last one I tried.  But there isn't an ACM compile of 3.90.3 that I know of.  If there is, let us know, I know some people use the Lame ACM in SAM or whatever.

But EdCast allows you to use the presets in lame_enc.dll and 3.90.3 with Preset #12 is unmatched for 128kbps, in my experience.  Preset #5 is also incredible, but lacks the treble transient clarity that #12 has.  I would recommend preset #5 for something like classical music, because of the tonal accuracy and the relative lack of treble transients.

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radiorenr1, too much highs.  too dense, and too loud.  try making the band5 compression threshold lower by 4-5db.  so like if it's at 0db now, make it -4db and see how it sounds.  what's the band5 compression ratio at?  yeah, it's way too crisp.

also, are you using preset #12 in the EdCast CFG file?  the line is this:
LAMEPreset=12
and the confnig file matches whatever encoder you're using, so for like encoder #1, the file you need to have that in is dsp_edcast_v3_1.cfg and so on.  The entry is down towards the bottom of the CFG file already, edit that entry that's already there, don't add a second one or it might not work.

lastly, upload me a flac of some of your songs mixed like they would be on air, WITHOUT audio processing, and i'll run them through my latest audio processing (not SS/2) and two presets i have in mind, and i'll upload that as flac, and that'll maybe give you something to shoot for.
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[radiorenr1]

i have done what you say but the sound was not good.
i stream now with the build in sam encoder.
i have changed my settings in my soundsolution.

how is the sound now ?

greet from radio r en r

[jesseg]

The spectral balance is better because it's not crazy treble as much (and it should sound more consistent because of that), but there's a TON of coding artifacts.  I would say that's by far the biggest problem with the stream right now.

It really doesn't matter what kind of processing is being used, if the codec is going to destroy it.  I would rather listen to a stream without these artifacts and no audio processing, than this stream with the audio processing.

You should use Lame ACM, if you HAVE to use SAM4's built-in encoders.

[radiorenr1]

hello jesseg

i have now installed k lite codec pack en i stream now with the lame codec.
i hope that the sound now perfect is for my stream.
and here is a mp3 file that you can use

http://www.piratenstudio.com/mp3/02.%20Als%20een%20moederhart%20moet%20huilen.mp3

greetzzz

[jesseg]

codec: WAY better.

again, the sound isn't bad, but try to add a bit more final density OR just turn up the final level by 1db-ish.  but if you add more final density, you can get the perception of more than 1db volume, by the time you hit 1db more.

[radiorenr1]

hello hello !
  now i have shoutcast put in my sam broadcaster.
and the lame !

how is my sound now.

greetz from the netherlands

[jesseg]

The new shoutcasts use FhG (Fraunhofer Group) for the codec, not lame.

It's too hard to compare without hearing them both side by side, recordings of the same programming.  So I can't really offer you any advice, except to say that both Lame (certain versions) and FhG (certain versions) are pretty good codecs for 128kbps CBR 44.1kHz Joint Stereo.