Sound Solution Dsp Audio Broadcast Processor code by Alessandro Tomassini
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2008, 10:46:54 PM »

PLEASE,

how to know wich value have the soundcards?

-1
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5
3
Huh??
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Sound Solution Dsp Audio Broadcast Processor code by Alessandro Tomassini
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2008, 10:46:54 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2008, 12:10:10 AM »

Absolutely amazing 'toy'
Thank you very much

Is there any thing you/we can do to short the buffer time process? Wink
it takes about 2 seconds in/out latency for me Sad
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2008, 02:24:32 AM »

NOW trying it on my PC with WIN XP..  results? take a look Cry Embarrassed



when press OK TPP crash!
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2008, 03:42:38 AM »

Absolutely amazing 'toy'
Thank you very much

Is there any thing you/we can do to short the buffer time process? Wink
it takes about 2 seconds in/out latency for me Sad


Also program shuts down and causes music to stager
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2008, 07:39:10 AM »

Well,

that "Invalid floating point operation" is due to the plugin itself (not to the player)...
i tried TPP with a bunch of releases of SS and always performed well (on WinXP SP2 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo).
The only problem i had was with the old "Tomass Limiter" (same floating point exception).

Bye
Alessandro

...ok, it seems that the problem is with SS1.1 and i got it just once starting tpp then pressing the cfg button without audio feeding in.
The strange thing (for this reason i think that PCs are becoming day by day more and more non-deterministic machines)
is that closing the error window, the program continued to run (!)  Huh
Anyway, i'll try to fix it
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2008, 08:49:33 AM »

thanks a lot, no problem here / old laptop hp nc6120 centrino proc. you did another good thing for us, Big Thanks, Grazie!
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2008, 09:23:59 AM »



...ok, it seems that the problem is with SS1.1 and i got it just once starting tpp then pressing the cfg button without audio feeding in.


exactly!! same here

congratulations for this GREAT new utility TPP, hopefully you fix it asap.

thanks a lot friend Alessandro.
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2008, 10:43:18 AM »

Let me see if I understand this correctly.
This new utility will allow me to configure
and utilize SS thru my SB Audigy soundcard
right?  I'm a dj and would much rather use
SS for my MixVibes dj pc program instead
of outboard compressor/limiter/expander.
In other words, it configs directly with my
soundcards right? Thanks for your help.

 
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2008, 01:13:09 PM »

Hi,
i try to put many values for the sound cards in the cfg.ini but no way, it doesn't work.
i heave a laptop winxp sp2 cre duo with a sound card inside and i want that the main sound coming out by this internal card (and until here it's ok Grin) and go (with a stereo cable) into line in of the other usb sound card. The output of the second usb card must to give me the sound processed.
Let me know if i'm wrong or something...

 Kiss Kiss Kiss
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2008, 01:41:48 PM »

Ciao Tomass, sto testando la tua utility, č possibile inserire nel prossimo aggiornamento il tastino per minimizare l'utility nella barra accanto all'orologio.
Credo sarebbe l'ideale, grazie del regalino.

Saluti
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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2008, 02:07:31 PM »

Ciao Tomass,
ancora piu' ideale sarebbe fare dei tastini sulle diciture in out per poter selezionare le skede audio.

Grassssssie
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2008, 05:42:34 PM »

Yeppaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, FIX IT!

i've found the numbers 4 my soundcards!!
1 in
1 out

But how to solve the problem with the delay in ss2?HuhHuh?
Impossible to broadcast with 2seconds delay.

Please help

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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2008, 09:30:52 PM »

I'm a dj and would much rather use SS for my MixVibes dj pc program instead of outboard compressor/limiter/expander.
We were just testing this on a few systems earlier today, running Mixvibes DVS, two running RME Firefaces, and one running a Linx.  It seemed to work great with 64 sample latency in DVS. Smiley  Oh and by the way, you can do the same thing with Winamp and the right input & output plugins...  there's tutorials already on this forum that will show you how, use the search function. Wink Cheers


But how to solve the problem with the delay in ss2?HuhHuh? Impossible to broadcast with 2seconds delay.
We did lower the latency of TPP a lot, but it doesn't perform well at all with very low latency.  We couldn't get it much under 4096 samples for input and for the output, without being unstable, and not under 1024 samples for the ringbuffer after the DSP (i think because of winamp plugins needing minimum of 576 sample buffers unless they buffer right into the output).  But either way, you're not going to get that great of latency unless you are using Kernel Streaming, which MMTools (some of the Delphi classes used in TPP) does not support by itself.


To Alessandro:
Great tool, I only have a couple suggestions.

The 1st is a big one, that it could be set not to pause the DSP plugins when there is silence or near silence.  This causes Oddcast to stop sending data, and it also seems to trigger when there isn't near-silence, but also if there's loud parts next to parts that are like -70db (where near-silence would be like -90db ish)  If there's "bouncy" dynamics like that with big dynamic range, then it pauses the DSP chain for split second and it sounds like glitching on the stream cos Oddcast is pausing for a split second.  We tried removing the meters and connectors, because of the pausing functions in them, but that didn't remove the problem of the DSP pausing.  We also couldn't find any info on the MMDSPPlugin class anywhere, is that your own code?  We tried using TMMTrigger, but that didn't get included with the app cos the linker removed it, i'm sure.  Anyways, that's the first suggestion, don't ever pause the DSP.

The 2nd suggestion is to use TMMWaveRecorder to save an output wav from AFTER the DSP (obviously).  Just save it to the same directory with the date/time stamp as part of the filename should be fine, or to provide a way to name it before it starts saving (TMMWaveSaveDialog) if that's possible.  Actually, ideally it would be awesome to be able to save to mp3 using lame_enc.dll, but that might be a far stretch this early in development.  But yeah, saving to mp3 with lame_enc.dll with a few settings in the ini (like what Oddcast uses) using a date/time-stamp as part of the filename would be the bomb.   Grin

The 3rd suggestion is to integrate this into your EXE's manifest - if MMTools does indeed require administrator rights under Vista:
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
<assembly xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1" manifestVersion="1.0">
   <assemblyIdentity version="1.0.0.0" processorArchitecture="X86" name="nameOfYourApp" type="win32"/>
      <trustInfo xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v3">
      <security>
         <requestedPrivileges>
            <requestedExecutionLevel level="requireAdministrator" uiAccess="false"/>
         </requestedPrivileges>
      </security>
   </trustInfo>
</assembly>
That will cause Vista's UAC to automatically run the program with administrator rights if the current user is an administrator, and if the user is not an administrator it will open a form asking them to enter the credentials of an account that has administrator rights.  I had to read through almost 500 page word doc to figure that out. Wink  It's easy once you know though, isn't it?  Cool

But yeah, awesome tool.  I look forward to whatever updates you might be doing to it.  Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2008, 02:16:19 AM »

I think it would be cool to minimize TPP to the task tray, as it's only working in the background anyway Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2008, 05:20:05 AM »

You can minimize it already, if you right click on the taskbar item and goto minimize, or if you just click on it once or twice, it'll minimize.  Wink
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